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This blog is centered around Emily Vieira's blog. Essentially, Emily's interpretation of the blog claims that many parents believed that the influx of the transfer students would greatly affect the district's test scores and cause violence that would eventually force families to move away. However, none of this occurred and in fact, the complete opposite happened. According to Bob Herbert, "Over a period of five to seven years, children in public housing who attended the school's district mort advantaged schools far outperformed in math and reading those children in public housing who attended the district's least-advantaged public schools." This proves that the integration method produces positive outcomes for all involved. Contrary to their parents' reactions, the current students celebrated the coming of the new students and were greatly accepting of them. Perhaps, this outpouring of love and support might of had an effect on the transfer students? In regard to schools being rewarded with more resources, I completely agree. I believe that the resources will benefit everyone that has access to them: transfer students and regular students. Bob Herbert supports this also, "If you really want to improve the education of poor children, you have to get them away from learning environments that are smothered by poverty. This is being done in some places, with impressive results. An important study conducted by the Century Foundation in Montgomery County, Md., showed that low-income students who happened to be enrolled in affluent elementary schools did much better than similarly low-income students in higher-poverty schools in the county." However. there are negative side effects that can occur, since not every transfer student feels as if they "belong". This is remedied by educating students on inclusive behaviors to make new students feel welcomed/wanted. The importance of this view
is demonstrated by Lauren Healey in her article, K-12 School Districts Work to Improve Inclusion Through Teacher Training, "Although the number of K-12 schools that
have implemented diversity initiatives is only a drop in the bucket,
more and more institutions are recognizing the importance of educating
younger students on these important topics to better prepare them both
academically and socially for life in and after college.
For this blog post I am writing extended comments to Emily Vieira's blog.
I agree with the quotes that she chose because they show how the students reacted to the transfer students. They didn't think anything different of them and that is important because the students are all just there to learn and get an education. The parents were downgrading these transfer students because they thought they were going to affect the school but they didn't at all. This isn't good for their kids to hear either because then they are going to be in that mindset when it is actually not like that. The students in that school became better because of the integrated school. There were no negative effects because of the transfer students. Integrated schools are beneficial for all students because it provides different resources and learning tools to the classroom.
The issue is blacks not getting the same education as whites and there needs to be more integration. The teachers usually turn away from low-income and poverty schools so that leaves these students with a less education than others. The teachers don't really want to be there so they aren't going to put their all into the job and then the students struggle. The courses taught are different and the students aren't getting the education that they should get. The advanced kids get better quality teachers than the kids who are behind. I agree with the quote that she included about the integration of lower-class communities into upper-class communities. These lower class students thrive in an upper class school because they get a better education and have more tools and resources for them to use. Overall, all students will benefit from transferring lower class students to a middle class school.
The society now should be way more integrated than it actually is.
This blog is centered around Emily Vieira's blog. Essentially, Emily's interpretation of the blog claims that many parents believed that the influx of the transfer students would greatly affect the district's test scores and cause violence that would eventually force families to move away. However, none of this occurred and in fact, the complete opposite happened. According to Bob Herbert, "Over a period of five to seven years, children in public housing who attended the school's district mort advantaged schools far outperformed in math and reading those children in public housing who attended the district's least-advantaged public schools." This proves that the integration method produces positive outcomes for all involved. Contrary to their parents' reactions, the current students celebrated the coming of the new students and were greatly accepting of them. Perhaps, this outpouring of love and support might of had an effect on the transfer students? In regard to schools being rewarded with more resources, I completely agree. I believe that the resources will benefit everyone that has access to them: transfer students and regular students. Bob Herbert supports this also, "If you really want to improve the education of poor children, you have to get them away from learning environments that are smothered by poverty. This is being done in some places, with impressive results. An important study conducted by the Century Foundation in Montgomery County, Md., showed that low-income students who happened to be enrolled in affluent elementary schools did much better than similarly low-income students in higher-poverty schools in the county." However. there are negative side effects that can occur, since not every transfer student feels as if they "belong". This is remedied by educating students on inclusive behaviors to make new students feel welcomed/wanted. The importance of this view
is demonstrated by Lauren Healey in her article, K-12 School Districts Work to Improve Inclusion Through Teacher Training, "Although the number of K-12 schools that
have implemented diversity initiatives is only a drop in the bucket,
more and more institutions are recognizing the importance of educating
younger students on these important topics to better prepare them both
academically and socially for life in and after college.
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I believe that inclusion is necessary for the success of all students. I also believe that no child should view themselves negatively due to there skin color or their family's income background.
Quote 1 : In, Separate and Equal, by Bob Herbert
“Schools are no longer legally
segregated, but because of residential patterns, housing discrimination,
economic disparities and long-held custom, they most emphatically are
in reality.”
This quote is a prime example of
how yes, the legality of segregation states that schools are not to be
segregated. However, this has proven to be almost irrelevant as each
area has a specific set of individuals based upon the area in which the
school is located. Proving that yes, schools are not segregated by law,
but instead by environment which is articulated in the podcast, The
Problem We All Live With, by Nikole Hannah Jones, stating, “the zip code
is the anchor that traps you.”
Quote 3: The Problem We All Live With, By by Nikole Hannah Jones.
“One of the best district of Missouri
was just five miles away. Why not send them there? Well, if you don't
want students to leave your district, one way to keep them is to make
leaving inconvenient. Make them ride a long distance to school everyday.
The Normandy officials deny that’s why they chose Francis Howell.”
This quote is a prime example of
how the school board actively attempted to deter students from leaving
their native school to attend a nicer school in order to better
themselves. Making it hard to leave their school was an aim to keep
students in their native school, however, nearly a thousand students
were willing to endure the half hour commute. This made me think of my
high school days. Just like these students, I left my hometown school
that had a subpar high school and took a bus at 5:45 that arrived at
school at 7:45, all to better my education. Thus, it can be done, but
with a bit of luck and willingness to make it work.
For this blog post I am writing extended comments to Emily Vieira's blog.
I agree with the quotes that she chose because they show how the students reacted to the transfer students. They didn't think anything different of them and that is important because the students are all just there to learn and get an education. The parents were downgrading these transfer students because they thought they were going to affect the school but they didn't at all. This isn't good for their kids to hear either because then they are going to be in that mindset when it is actually not like that. The students in that school became better because of the integrated school. There were no negative effects because of the transfer students. Integrated schools are beneficial for all students because it provides different resources and learning tools to the classroom.
The issue is blacks not getting the same education as whites and there needs to be more integration. The teachers usually turn away from low-income and poverty schools so that leaves these students with a less education than others. The teachers don't really want to be there so they aren't going to put their all into the job and then the students struggle. The courses taught are different and the students aren't getting the education that they should get. The advanced kids get better quality teachers than the kids who are behind. I agree with the quote that she included about the integration of lower-class communities into upper-class communities. These lower class students thrive in an upper class school because they get a better education and have more tools and resources for them to use. Overall, all students will benefit from transferring lower class students to a middle class school.
The society now should be way more integrated than it actually is.
I like the quote that Emily chose from The Problem We All Live With because
it speaks to the fact that characteristics like racism and
discrimination are learned. The young children in Francis Howell
celebrated the transfer students from Normandy School despite what their
parents thought which is indeed quite amazing. Older folks tend to be
much less open-minded and accepting to changes as opposed to the youth,
or in this case, their own children. I think it's also important to note
that their was no increase in violence, no decrease in test scores, and
overall, the transfer students fared well in their new district.
I also like the quote that Emily chose from Seperate and Unequal because
it provides statistical evidence to the fact that integration for the
lower class community is highly beneficial. Bob Hebert says "The study, released last October, found that “over a period of five to seven years, children in public housing who attended the school district’s most advantaged schools far outperformed in math and reading those children in public housing who attended the district’s least-advantaged public schools.” An important point that I took from this article was that it's not about the race, class, income level, or neighborhood of the students that hinder their success. It's the all around environment of the school, quality of teaching, classroom disruptions, academic engagement of the students as a whole, parent involvement, and so forth.
This issue struck me as highly important because I witness it in my own service learning experience. The school I myself, and I assume most, if not all of the class, works in are not integrated at all.


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